#273 - 06/01/07 10:39 AM
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oishi
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I don't think that this can be called a crime ,but it can still lead to bodily harm.
Here's an interesting site on the topic:
http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/statistics.html#Thedogbiteepidemic
There is a dog bite epidemic in the United States. There are almost 5 million victims annually -- about 2% of the entire population. 800,000 need medical attention. 1,000 per day need treatment in hospital emergency rooms. Between 15 and 20 die per year. Most of the victims who receive medical attention are children, half of whom are bitten in the face. Dog bite losses exceed $1 billion per year, with over $300 million paid by insurance.
Have any of you been attacked by dogs - and if you were what did you do?
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#274 - 06/01/07 10:43 AM
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Personally I've never been attacked by a dog and I feel really lucky. One of my greatest fears is to be attacked by one and dogs really scare me.
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#275 - 06/01/07 10:45 AM
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oishi
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Personally I've never been attacked by a dog and I feel really lucky. One of my greatest fears is to be attacked by one and dogs really scare me.
You have to learn to control that fear - most of the dogs can smell fear and that's one of the reasons they may attack.
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#276 - 06/01/07 10:51 AM
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Patricia
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I found an answer on this site and I think that it's very informative: http://www.defendu.com/questions/quest43.htm
1. I would suggest that all of you carry a rattan cane or stick. I have seen a case where a person intervened in a dog attack with a stick and successfully stopped an attacking Pit Bull.
You might also consider carrying an umbrella. They are useful for thwarting an attack. When you open the umbrella and position it between you and the dog, you are hidden behind the fabric and the dog is bewildered. I know that the workers at an electrical utility where I once was employed used this successfully all the time. It does take some courage, because the dog will continue to bark and snarl and might even try and move around the barrier formed by the umbrella. Just keep the opened fabric between you and the dog and try to retreat to a safe area. You might be forced to climb onto a car or other object that the dog cannot climb.
DON'T RUN! The predatory instinct in most dogs (some are more "prey driven" than others -- some are "food driven") will cause them to chase you and they can run decidedly faster than you can. You will be dragged down and mauled.
I've seen a person try and kick a dog away, but I've been told that you should never do this because they will instinctively attack that leg, thereby pulling you off balance to the ground. Protect your throat and face as well as possible. I have seen a person drive off a really large dog by repeatedly punching the dog in the face as fast and as furious as he would punch any man in a fist fight. The guy suffered some minor puncture marks on his hands and wrists which were caused as much by him punching the dog's teeth as were caused by the dog biting him.
I have driven off a pack of wild dogs in Mexico by throwing rocks at them. I mean I really THREW the rocks with intent to injure the dogs. I did, in fact, hit one which yelped and they moved away.
I was hunting with my bird dog once and was surrounded by a pack of wild dogs. They were incredibly bold, however, I was carrying my shotgun so I was not particularly worried. But I finally had to shoot a warning blast over the dogs heads to force them to move off.
Here are some other useful tips:
Defense against aggresive dogs
When confronted by a threatening dog, the impulse at times it to turn and run. It is the worst response, since movement triggers the chase instinct in dogs.
Stand very still and try to be calm.
Don't scream at the dog and run.
Be aware of where the dog is. Look in its general direction, but don't stare into its eyes. This is considered an aggressive challenge.
Let the dog sniff you.
In a low voice say, "No! Go home!"
Stay still until the dog leaves.
Back away slowly until it is out of sight.
If a dog does attack, try to "feed" it your workout jacket, bike equipment (briefcase, purse) to distract the dog while you back slowly away towards safety.
If knocked down, curl into a ball and keep your hands over your ears, face and neck. Try not to scream or roll around.
Source: National Security Institute
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#277 - 06/01/07 10:53 AM
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Thanks for the info patricia  I'll keep all of these things in mind. And oishi - thanks for the encouragement.
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#279 - 06/01/07 11:01 AM
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oishi
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Do you think that pepper spraying a dog would have any effect on it?
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#280 - 06/01/07 11:06 AM
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Patricia
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Do you think that pepper spraying a dog would have any effect on it?
I think that it would have an even greater effect on a dog ,because they have a stronger sence of smell. Also it would have the same effect on their eyes.
That's an interesting alternative!
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#302 - 06/01/07 12:53 PM
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LOL I know that this is a serious thread. But you've gotta admit that it sounds a bit funny - pepper spraying a dog.
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#679 - 09/01/07 08:27 AM
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I don't believe in dog violence. If a dog attackes it's because of his master. I'm sorry but it's true. The dog must have been badly trained. I love dogs and have never once even considered them dangerous.
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#838 - 09/06/07 10:46 AM
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I think that the best way to deal with dog attacks is to have a small cannister of pepper spray available to zap them with
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#937 - 09/08/07 07:57 AM
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Or a kick might suffice...I think that if a dog attacks it's the masters fault but still I don't want a dog bighting my kids face.
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#939 - 09/08/07 12:42 PM
Dog attack responsibility
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Do you think a dogs owner should be held accountable in the event of a dog attack?
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The dogs owner SHOULD be held responsible for damages and liability.
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The dogs owner SHOULD NOT be held responsible for damages and liability.
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#966 - 09/08/07 08:48 PM
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I do not think the owner should be held responsible unless they tell the dog to attack or train it to be like that. Of course it is a terrible accident but it cannot be controlled.
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#982 - 09/09/07 10:30 AM
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Ultimately it is the owner's responsibility to train the animal to be obedient and to NOT be a danger to people. If they have failed to do that, then yes they deserve to be held accountable.
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#1014 - 09/09/07 07:42 PM
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Animals are unpredicatble most the time. Even the nicest and most trained dogs will sometimes attack and for that reason alone the owner should not be held responsible at all times. Again it should depend on the situation.
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#1019 - 09/09/07 07:45 PM
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I think that if you are the owner, you are responsible. If your dog is good natured and you let them walk off leash, then it is still your responsibility. I'm a dog lover as well, but a person needs to know their own dog.
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#1106 - 09/19/07 05:25 PM
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Good point. In my area, there have been several people attacked by bands of wild dogs roaming free. I would imagine some of these techniques might work on them. I wonder though how well they will work on multiple dogs.
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#1662 - 03/17/08 08:48 PM
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It's hard to protect your self unexpected dog attacks. A good solution is to carry pepper spray or electronic dog repellents. You can visit PlanetMace - Animal Repellents
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#1663 - 03/18/08 01:07 PM
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My friend Darren Laur, a working LEO and researcher, wrote an essay called Woof, Woof: Tips for surviving a dog attack (His articles are in alphabetical order so it is last on the page.)
He gives good tips for facing ordinary pets gone wild. He differentiates between pets and trained attack dogs he calls land sharks. He makes the connection between what we think we can do in the face of a dog attack and what we might do when the chemical rush (SSR) of adrenaline hits, which interferes with our dexterity and fine motor skills, (ie pepper spray) and judgement (don't run!).
Well worth reading....
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