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#723 - 09/02/07 03:13 PM Using small weapons
kisna
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My teacher used to walk 25 minutes always to go to his house from school. And he always used to carry a small knife for safety purpose. I never heard that he used it but I used say that that is for self defence, if somebody attacked him and he will use it. Do you think that is good?
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#730 - 09/02/07 04:42 PM Re: Using small weapons [Re: kisna]
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Carrying a knife is fine, but it's probably not the best means of self defense for your average individual. For one thing, most people are not proficient enough with a knife to adequately defend themself in the event of an attack. Secondly, not being able to defend yourself until an attacker is right on top of you leaves a lot of room for error.

For the average individual, something as simple as a 15% pepper spray solution with 3 million Scoville heat units would serve them far better to ward off an attacker. This would give you the advantage of stopping an attacker before they are right up on top of you. Granted pepper sprays do have their limitations and drawbacks though such as wind and poor aim due to trying to activate the pepper spray in a hurry. Though it does take a strong wind to cause the pepper spray stream to deviate enough to affect the person using it. I can say this from experience because I have used dozens of assorted pepper spray types with no problems in product testing.
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#732 - 09/03/07 02:21 AM Re: Using small weapons [Re: Stun_Gun_Supply]
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Yes, proximity has to be the biggest draw back of a knife for self defence. Even the panic alarms would have advantage over this in that you can keep away from the attacker. Of course something like mace or pepper spray would have the added disabling effects too.
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#741 - 09/03/07 04:08 AM Re: Using small weapons [Re: britjojo]
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Actually a lot of people uses such small weapon in some places here.
There are some places which have very high risk of robbery. So people either go always in group or they go there with something for self defense.

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#781 - 09/03/07 09:47 PM Re: Using small weapons [Re: kisna]
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Safety in numbers makes more sense than carrying a small blade. You really just don't want to find yourself in the situation where you are close enough for a knife to be effective.
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#818 - 09/05/07 03:52 PM Re: Using small weapons [Re: britjojo]
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There was a cool weapon known as a pocket stick sold in old martial arts catalogues. I am not sure if it is legal anymore though
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#830 - 09/05/07 06:40 PM Re: Using small weapons [Re: MHJ]
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I wouldn't think so. I don't think it is legal to carry anything that is actually designed as a weapon, on the street is it? I know that knives can only be a certain length.
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#901 - 09/07/07 09:28 PM Re: Using small weapons [Re: britjojo]
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I try to always carry around a pocket knife with me or keep it in my car. You never know when you might need it. One scary thing though is that it can always be used against you as well. It is just a risk that I am willing to take should anything ever happen.
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#934 - 09/08/07 07:37 AM Re: Using small weapons [Re: jlcp]
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I wouldn't carry a knife around, I would be to scared to hurt someone. I have heard of attackers and rapists who got away with it because they complained that the woman was carrying a knife.
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#948 - 09/08/07 01:41 PM Re: Using small weapons [Re: Julie]
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Knifes also come with a number of legal issues. Some people are of the impression that if they use a knife in self defense they will be given immunity from prosecution. Not so!
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#965 - 09/08/07 08:47 PM Re: Using small weapons [Re: MHJ]
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Though I understand the reasoning I still would not recomend carrying a knife. I mean...when they have a gun a knife will not do much. I would carry a can of mace and a smaller gun (with a liscence if law permits it).
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#1180 - 10/23/07 03:24 PM Re: Using small weapons [Re: Noah]
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I think a knife is better than nothing, while it does have its drawbacks it's certainly better, especially for a woman, than nothing else. If a man attacked me, and was trying to rape me, I'd like to think if I had a knife I'd have a better chance of warding him off due to injury a knife could cause.
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#1591 - 02/08/08 03:52 PM Re: Using small weapons [Re: spiffy]
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In a few weeks I plan on buying several small weapons for self defense. I know I will be getting a few models of knives and so on.
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#1613 - 02/21/08 08:42 PM Re: Using small weapons [Re: venusdoom]
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I recently saw some kind of white "stick" like thing hanging off of someones key chain. as I approached them they seemed to clench it, and I was somewhat worried.

So I mustered up the courage and finally asked the little man what it was, and what purpose it served. What i was about to learn intrigued me. He told me that when he got worried about being attacked or mugged, he held it tight in his fist, making his punches something like 6 times harder. I thought this was amazing, and over time I went out and bought a few of those for all my key chains

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#1649 - 03/13/08 11:25 AM Re: Using small weapons [Re: mcfarb67]
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First: my credentials.

I've trained in a number of martial arts systems, (European, Japanese , Chinese and Filipino) both empty hand and weapon based, since 1972. Bio here.

I've been researching and teaching the self defence use of martial arts since 1993, when that became my focus over sport.
The number one fallacy about self defense preparedness is found in talisman thinking.

A talisman keeps the wearer safe from dragons and evil magic spells. Talisman thinking is applies to the focus on a single object or thought as the method to keep yourself safe.

Suggesting that any one tool is the best thing to have is talisman thinking. (Ever notice that the idea that a hammer is the only way to go is the pov of the guy who sells hammers?)

Examples would be:

Talisman weapons: knife, kubotan (pocket stick), firearm, pepper spray, etc.

Talisman techniques: usually preface by "I'll just..." kick to groin, eye gouge, break his nose, scream, yell "fire!"

Talisman thinking: be aware, lock our doors, avoid bad places or people, etc

The problem?
A tool, technique or thought will not save you when attacked.

A single minded focus on any one thing can leave you stranded if the situation does not allow that 'thing' to be accessed. Failing to protect yourself because you just remembered, "I forgot to put my pocket stick in my pocket this morning!" when you have a pen and pencil handy is the ultimate failure of talisman thinking: see: improvised weapons


Do you separate your role as a cook from your role as a mother? Do you separate your role as a reader from your role as a student? In the same way, your involvement in self protection should be a natural part of your whole life, not something you will "do" when needed.

Current wisdom:

A weapon not in hand is useless at the time of an attack.

A weapon you do not practise with will not be trusted and therefore, will not be brought into play when you are attacked.

Being aware without having the experience to tell a real predator from an ordinary bottom dweller will have you paranoid all the time which is too stressful so you will back yourself down and quit worrying.

Don't get me wrong, true working awareness can be taught and learned. References: Total Awareness and Real Crimes, Real Criminals and The Gift of Fear

Remember: if your mind is your best weapon, you must plan, prepare and practise, not just hope,

YOU must be the weapon - and anything to hand is just a tool for you to use. Being prepared is true stress relief.

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